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I want chocolate, and I want a new consultant.

No, it is not obvious that I will be delivering the twins at the RUH, fuckhead.  I have a legal right to a homebirth, and I have a legal right to type of birth I want, and no, I will not have the birth that your procedure dictates just because it's convienient for you.

And it's considered polite to introduce yourself, and tell me who the woman you've just brought into room with you is.

Also, considering we'd been waiting 2 hours for our appointment, (the last twenty five minutes spent in the consulting room wondering what the fuck was going on) some sort of apology would have been nice. Failing that, some sort of acknowledgement of how long we'd been waiting.

So yeah, so not impressed.

Date: 2006-01-11 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doctor-toc.livejournal.com
Do it. You've got a right to see someone who isn't a shithead. Then, when you've got a new consultant, write to the other one and say why you're not seeing him or her any more.

Yay! A homebirth!!

Date: 2006-01-11 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inkbabies.livejournal.com
::Stands and cheers!!!!!!!::
I am so proud of you for not letting the medical establishment bully you! Have a homebirth!!! I'm so glad to see someone else who knows that birth is not a medical procedure even if it's twins or not, and that pregnancy is not an illness, nor should it be treated as such!
(sorry for that mother of all run on sentences!)
::sends hugs for the lousy wait too::

Re: Yay! A homebirth!!

Date: 2006-01-12 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honorh.livejournal.com
Okay, on first glance, I thought you icon said, "Mmm, boobies," which would have been *so* totally appropriate. My baby nephew Sam certainly thinks boobies are yummy. All boobies. He gets discouraged with mine, though--strictly ornamental, they.

And I agree with the others. If you're not comfortable with this practitioner, get someone else. You don't want your birth in the hands of someone you don't fully trust.

Re: Yay! A homebirth!!

Date: 2006-01-12 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inkbabies.livejournal.com
Okay, on first glance, I thought you icon said, "Mmm, boobies," which would have been *so* totally appropriate
::hehehehe!!!!::

My son thought the same thing. Because of that, I do have one that says that! However, I don't use it in my friend's journals. At least not very often....(but in honor of this I have to!)
I'm a Homebirth midwife, so I'm partial to pics of pregnant bellies, births and nursing babies and I'm thrilled to see moms who are having homebirths too!

Date: 2006-01-12 12:23 am (UTC)
jekesta: Houlihan with her hat and mask. (Gay as a window)
From: [personal profile] jekesta
Argh to idiot people. I can't believe they didn't introduce themselves and hte person with them. People are so rude, so thoughtlessly.

But yay you. And also omg twins! I'm sorry. I'll keep saying that because every time you mention it, it's like OMG TWINS! So cool:)

::loves::

Date: 2006-01-12 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] classicshe.livejournal.com
As a mother who gave birth in a hospital, developed a severe and unexpected complication (nature's fault, not the hopsital nor the Doctor) and barely lived through it, I believe any woman who forgoes a hospital is literally taking her life into her own hands. Especially with twins. My humble opinion, feel free to ignore and I hope to God I don't have to say "I told you so."

Date: 2006-01-12 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inkbabies.livejournal.com
I believe any woman who forgoes a hospital is literally taking her life into her own hands. Especially with twins.
I respect your opinion, but I don't agree on all counts.
When you choose to have a homebirth as an educated, informed choice, you have a special attendant who is trained to asses the situation, be it normal birth or complicated birth. Midwives are trained to recognize problems at home before they get out of hand so that you can get to a hospital in a timely manner in an emergency. Most midwives have more intensive training in birth and prenatal care than general or family practice Doctors. We have at least three years intensive training in just obstetrical care. We don't go to school for anything but the care of women. Doctors get a three month rotation in an obstetrical ward at the hospital. They don't have a minimum amount of births that they need to attend. All they see is the pathology of pregnancy. An O.B. has a longer fellowship in womens' health, but a lot of them still look at pregnancy as a disease process, not a normal, natural function of the human body.
We've been having babies out of the hospital for millions of years and the human race has still survived. The industrialized countries that have hospital birth as the main venue for normal childbirth (i.e. the U.S.) have higher mortality rates and morbidity rates for childbirth than the countries like the UK and Denmark that have homebirths for normal childbirth.

Now that I've finished my rant, (I'm sorry by the way if I've offended you, that was not my intent at all) Doctors and hospitals are a wonderful thing if you have an emergency or complication as in your case. It was good that you were in the hospital. It can be good for people to be out of it too. I'm not trying to change your mind, just trying to give you a little more information. Now days choosing to have a homebirth isn't such a risky thing. For some people, (namely those carrying twins) having a hospital birth is more of a risky thing than having a homebirth.

Date: 2006-01-12 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] classicshe.livejournal.com
I don't mind your rant, after all, its your post, your body, your children.

Its also obvious you have your mind set, and nothing will deter you from your plotted course, so I wish you and yours the best.


Date: 2006-01-12 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inkbabies.livejournal.com
Actually, I'm just one of the [livejournal.com profile] thedivinegoat's friends, [livejournal.com profile] maybebabies. Sorry for the mix up. I'm a trained, certified, homebith midwife in the United States, so yeah, I guess you could say my mind is set. ~_^
I've had one of my three children in a hospital by choice, one at the hospital because of complications and one at home. I had the same Midwife for my last two pregnancies, but I became seriously ill during my second pregnancy and had to go to the hospital at 30 weeks. My midwife caught the problem very early and transfered my care to the hospital ASAP. My son was born prematurely (32 weeks) in the hospital, but my midwife was there with me. Despite all of the problems with the second pregnancy, I was able to have my third son out of the hospital, and he was born right on his due date, mostly because of the extra attention we paid to the pregnancy to avoid the illness that caused my problem last time. I had more thourough and personal care with my midwife than I've ever had with a doctor. Not to mention the fact that at the hospital it's not the doctors who care for you, it's the nurses. (Midwives have much more training than nurses in childbirth and care of the pregnant woman. We also have the same monitoring equipment to monitor the baby's heart at home, oxygen, I.V.s, suturing equipment, medication to stop bleeding, etc.)

Date: 2006-01-12 07:06 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
He's i) a man
ii) a consultant - they get like that, unfortunately. Complain, his other patients will thank you. A story goes that one woman, tired of the silent treatment from her 'examiner' wrote "Hello Doctor!" on her bump for the next examination!

I once totally 'threw' a doctor I'd eventually gotten to see on a hospital visit - not antenatal. He sort of indicated the chair for me to sit & I took his hand & shook it. Always good to get them on the back foot. Sounds like you might need to dig a bit though to find that consultant's back foot.

But do so, his other patients are human beings too & he sounds as if he needs a strong reminder of the fact - even if he's been having the day from hell himself!

Date: 2006-01-12 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mister-jack.livejournal.com
Tell him he's a fuckwit from me, will you?

Have you spoken to my mum about having twins? It might be helpful?

Date: 2006-01-12 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dandelion-diva.livejournal.com
Good for you! It's your body, your pregnancy and your birth experience. You have the right to have things the way you're most comfortable.

I hope the new person treats you as you should be treated.

Gessi

Date: 2006-01-12 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mildred.livejournal.com
What a tit.

Whenever you say 'twins' I keep thinking 'Oh my gosh, twins are so hard to look after'... then realising that this thought stems from playing The Sims 2, heh heh, not my own upbringing :P

Consultants

Date: 2006-01-12 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Tend to have their heads so far in the air its a wonder they even notice their patients!

Meanwhile be thankful he's a consultant for yr pregnancy & you only have to put up with him, & his rudeness, for another few months.

Psychiatrists can 'have you on their books' for yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaarsssssss. Fortunately the two I've had have been nice ladies. Mind you, I wasn't so keen on the consultant I saw at some stage during me first sectioning. Though that could have been cos he'd sectioned me more than anything else!

Date: 2006-01-12 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mactavish.livejournal.com
Ew. Have you much choice among consultants?

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