I'm well aware of the repututation(s) Whedonesque has got over the past 6 years.
We've been labelled as
Browncoat Central Firefly haters Spuffies Bangels Anti-shipping (there's truth there) Being blindly devoted to Joss Not being devoted to Joss enough Anti Spike/pro Spike (and by extension the actor James Marsters as well) SMG haters/SMG lovers UnAmerican Left Wing Pro-Muslim and anti Christian anti-Mormon (not our finest hour I will admit) Homophobic Pro-Slash Fanboyish Fangirlish Feminist Sexist
I could go on but those are the main accusations. It's got to the point where I think some fans will see what they want to see at Whedonesque. You see coded sexist and racist terms at Whedonesque, others will see open and honest debate. If I thought it had become somekin to an AICN talkbalk session, there's would have been blood on the carpet spilt by me. I'll not put up with damn silly fanboy nonsense.
As for Joss' pattern, well we did actually notice that and he was called out on it by several people in the Act 3 discussion. Killing people seems to be his raison d'etre and if he does it well then fair play to him. Others might perceive it as a one-trick pony thing.
There also seems to be a weird belief that all Joss fans collectively live in cloud cuckoo land and we all think that's there never been any valid criticism of his works and never will be. This is patently just nonsense. If the argument is well written, I'll read it. Now I'll stick my hand up and freely admit I'm not a huge fan of ideologically driven critiques. It's starting to be come a bug bear with me. I'd much rather read critiques of Joss' perceived failings as a writer, director etc.
And by the way while I do take your concerns on board (it makes a nice change), calling my fellow posters 'monkeys' does somewhat detract from your argument.
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We've been labelled as
Browncoat Central
Firefly haters
Spuffies
Bangels
Anti-shipping (there's truth there)
Being blindly devoted to Joss
Not being devoted to Joss enough
Anti Spike/pro Spike (and by extension the actor James Marsters as well)
SMG haters/SMG lovers
UnAmerican
Left Wing
Pro-Muslim and anti Christian
anti-Mormon (not our finest hour I will admit)
Homophobic
Pro-Slash
Fanboyish
Fangirlish
Feminist
Sexist
I could go on but those are the main accusations. It's got to the point where I think some fans will see what they want to see at Whedonesque. You see coded sexist and racist terms at Whedonesque, others will see open and honest debate. If I thought it had become somekin to an AICN talkbalk session, there's would have been blood on the carpet spilt by me. I'll not put up with damn silly fanboy nonsense.
As for Joss' pattern, well we did actually notice that and he was called out on it by several people in the Act 3 discussion. Killing people seems to be his raison d'etre and if he does it well then fair play to him. Others might perceive it as a one-trick pony thing.
There also seems to be a weird belief that all Joss fans collectively live in cloud cuckoo land and we all think that's there never been any valid criticism of his works and never will be. This is patently just nonsense. If the argument is well written, I'll read it. Now I'll stick my hand up and freely admit I'm not a huge fan of ideologically driven critiques. It's starting to be come a bug bear with me. I'd much rather read critiques of Joss' perceived failings as a writer, director etc.
And by the way while I do take your concerns on board (it makes a nice change), calling my fellow posters 'monkeys' does somewhat detract from your argument.